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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space as developers, architects and leaders for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show.

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Jun 12, 2021

It's been a long week and the hosts are tired. Some follow up happened. You can mine crypto with your antivirus software apparently. The FBI runs a legit illegit company. Fastly breaks the internet and you should watch out for an Alpaca on the Attack. Eric dives into Urban Spacial Order and Bird Anting while Jon...

Jun 5, 2021

Jon returns from camping and Eric grills and is grilled. How to spot malicious extensions using reviews, Android's new privacy options, the Arizona suit against Google for potential privacy violations, and a "cloud first" botnet. For fun we have Ingenuity's latest (anomalous) flight, jumping from a plane without...

May 28, 2021

More water problems for Eric. Jon makes cheese. Apple admits it has a problem and Jon provides an example - then talks about the RSA Hack Ten Year Reunion show! Eric finds Crypto, COBOL and Taxes somewhat funny and Jon follows the trail that defined "Aerosol".

May 22, 2021

Eric tries his hand at brisket, and Jon has a cow (literally). A cool IMSI-catcher project, four android zero days, and a way to use Apple's Find My network to send arbitrary data. For fun we have "Dangit, Git!", China's mars rover landing, and the Soviet Venera program focused on Venus.

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May 14, 2021

Jon watches fencing this time, Eric tries out the new grill. Ransomware hits a pipeline and people bag gasoline. Eric figures SSH+YubiKeys is one more step toward a passwordless future. Jon chats up the Frag Attack and Eric likes the logo. A mobile chip bug has a massive footprint. Eric's curiosity is piqued...