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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space as developers, architects and leaders for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show.

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Apr 17, 2020

Eric is confused by who wears a mask and who doesn't in public. Jon does a lot of gardening and bee stuff while listening to Air Supply. Just to be clear, there are no new scams, just repackaged scams. Microsoft, Zoom, Apple and Google Followup notes. Utah is tracking visitors to the state. Eric chats Snyk, Jon defines Doxing. Finally, a Raspberry Shake Vault and Old Man's Shark.