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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space as developers, architects and leaders for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show.

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Aug 20, 2021

Eric drinks New Coke Zero. Jon gets less honey than he had hoped. Collisions in Apple's CSAM, a T-Mobile breach, a Covid testing site breach and Blackberry QNX bugs. Eric aspires to visit Machu Picchu now that he knows how old it really is and Jon talks about really hot tiny things and woolly mammoth travel tracking.