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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space as developers, architects and leaders for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show.

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Dec 10, 2021

Eric sleeps, reads (and listens) to books and gets holiday'd up; Jon decorates with Star Trek ornaments. Eric talks about how Apple AirTags are marking cars to steal and Jon shares articles on government playing offense and defense in cybersecurity. Eric shares the story about a Graphing Calculator and Jon talks about seeing back in time to 50 million years after the Big Bang.