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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space as developers, architects and leaders for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show.

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Dec 18, 2021

Eric and Jon are ready for the Holidays. Apple releases an Android app (!!?), NPM expunges discord stealing packages, Log4Shell is the vulnerability of the week (year??), and reverse engineering NSO Groups zero click iMessage exploit. For fun we have the forgotten Heroines of Chaos, and linking increased rates of dementia to noise pollution.