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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space as developers, architects and leaders for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show.

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May 13, 2022

Eric visits a few states, Jon has a pleasant Mother's Day and they both watch Dr. Strange. A little Patch Tuesday followup, some notes on credit card stealing as a service (CCSaaS), a "Delete All The Things" malware making the rounds and another cryptocurrency hack. Eric chats about his favorite Google IO announcement and Jon shares thoughts on steganography.