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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space as developers, architects and leaders for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show.

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May 26, 2023

Jon goes fishing and figures he'll fix a car. Eric goes camping but doesn't really and learns about volunteering at the zoo. Please check out for fun, TikTok gets banned in Montana, Suzuki shuts down in India and TrendMicro informs us on the Lemon Group. Eric still enjoys playing Rocket League and Jon catches up on the Mistborn series.