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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space as developers, architects and leaders for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show.

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Aug 26, 2023

Eric goes camping and Jon repairs his dishwasher. Apple is supporting California's right to repair law, the UK may outlaw end to end encryption and companies are threatening to remove features for residents (see Facebook vs. Canada), and Canary Tokens are awesome. India lands on the moon and you should see the movie Your Name!