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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space as developers, architects and leaders for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show.

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Nov 18, 2023

Jon constructs and Eric cleans house. Let google send your spam, bipartisan (??) surveillance reform bill, and how AI may change democracy. Quantitatively adults have better attention spans now than 30 years ago, and you should read Seth Ring's novels (start with the Titan series).