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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space as developers, architects and leaders for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show.

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Feb 3, 2024

Eric has an eye for pain while Jon admires his bees and discovers upgrade issues with his TV. Google ads can send you to malicious software and Facebook has 2000+ companies send them your data. Doom runs everywhere, including bacteria while gene therapy treats hearing loss for kids.