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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space as developers, architects and leaders for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show.

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Mar 30, 2024

Eric and Jon chat about vacations, Jon looks for whales in Washington while Eric searches for license plates in Utah. Eric finds 3 million hotel room doors can be opened while Jon finds a company playing boths sides. Eric discovers he's a Lightweaver while Jon is an Elsecaller who also likes a whale museums. [NOTE: Eric's travel mic was having issues - sorry for the audio!]