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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space as developers, architects and leaders for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show.

Opinions are their own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of their employer, friends, neighbors, or even each other.



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Looking for a Podcast App for your iPhone?  Overcast is the one Jon and Eric use (and recommend).  Eric, a glutton for punishment, also insists on carrying an Android phone and has yet to find a Podcast App better than the Google Podcasts app.  If you have a suggestion, let him know.