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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space as developers, architects and leaders for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show.

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Apr 6, 2018

Jon chats about his car and beekeeping. Cloudflare's Privacy Focused DNS and an ARM v Intel post. Will Apple use its own chips in it Macs? And poor, poor Panera... Eric tries hiking Multnomah Falls and ends up hiking somewhere else. Jon gets a kick out of colors.