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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space as developers, architects and leaders for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show.

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Jan 21, 2022

Jon vaporizes some expensive bees, Eric creates an icon and is therefore serious. Cyber-Snow Days for Schools, Red Cross is hacked, Russia arrests some hackers and Ukraine has some PCs wiped. Eric's fun is Web3 and Jon's fun is new data on MS.