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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space as developers, architects and leaders for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show.

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Mar 9, 2018


Security implications of Google's Android 'P' first developer preview. Newly unclassified documents from 2016 (likely Shadow Broker fallout). Girl Scout cybersecurity badges and drones in Puerto Rico.